I know you can hardly wait to fire up the JIT-crafted UAE; still I need to ask for more patience. Things are improving, yet it is not as mature as this admired audience would deserve, so there is no pre-relase just yet.
Some of you is more excited than the others and asked interesting questions that worth answering. Questions are repeated all over again quite often, so let me save some time and pondering: here are the answers for the...
Q: How can I help?
A: You can always show your support by sending a small donation to this project on AmigaBounty. You can also spread the word to users of other platforms; maybe they would like to hear about it too.
In case you feel the urge, you can fiddle with the sources. See the Q/A below related to getting the current sources.
Q: Will this JIT translation work on AmigaOS3.x PPC/MorphOS/Macintosh/Linux/game consoles? The bounty is about AmigaOS4!
A: Absolutely, I have no intention to limit the implementation to AmigaOS4.
However, I cannot promise that I will release any other specific builds from E-UAE other than the one for AmigaOS4. (Simply because I have no experience, neither too much time/intention to dig deep into development for different platforms.)
The sources are released under GPL license; you can do your own build or merge it into your favorite UAE derivation.
Q: Will you fix the bug XYZ in E-UAE? Will you improve the chipset emulation?
A: No. I never promised anything else than PowerPC JIT translation and I still intend to stick to this. I have fixed some minor things in the original E-UAE implementation that was related to AmigaOS4, but don’t expect any subtle changes.
I am not going to take over the maintenance of the E-UAE source code base. Somebody else has to stand up and accept this task.
Q: Will this JIT thing improve the speed of the emulation of my favorite (OCS) game?
A: Possible, but I must point out that similarly to the x86 implementation the JIT translation will only work on processors that have instruction (CPU) cache built in and turned on (68020 and up). So, if your game cannot cope with these processors and the turned on processor cache, then I am sorry, but it won’t help much.
Q: I tried to run Kickstart 1.3 and it crashed with the JIT enabled!
Why? I tried to run <some ancient Amiga 500 game> and it crashed with the JIT enabled! Why?
Some of you is more excited than the others and asked interesting questions that worth answering. Questions are repeated all over again quite often, so let me save some time and pondering: here are the answers for the...
Frequently Asked Questions
Last updated on 11 January 2014.Q: How can I help?
A: You can always show your support by sending a small donation to this project on AmigaBounty. You can also spread the word to users of other platforms; maybe they would like to hear about it too.
In case you feel the urge, you can fiddle with the sources. See the Q/A below related to getting the current sources.
Q: Will this JIT translation work on AmigaOS3.x PPC/MorphOS/Macintosh/Linux/game consoles? The bounty is about AmigaOS4!
A: Absolutely, I have no intention to limit the implementation to AmigaOS4.
However, I cannot promise that I will release any other specific builds from E-UAE other than the one for AmigaOS4. (Simply because I have no experience, neither too much time/intention to dig deep into development for different platforms.)
The sources are released under GPL license; you can do your own build or merge it into your favorite UAE derivation.
Q: Will you fix the bug XYZ in E-UAE? Will you improve the chipset emulation?
A: No. I never promised anything else than PowerPC JIT translation and I still intend to stick to this. I have fixed some minor things in the original E-UAE implementation that was related to AmigaOS4, but don’t expect any subtle changes.
I am not going to take over the maintenance of the E-UAE source code base. Somebody else has to stand up and accept this task.
Q: Will this JIT thing improve the speed of the emulation of my favorite (OCS) game?
A: Possible, but I must point out that similarly to the x86 implementation the JIT translation will only work on processors that have instruction (CPU) cache built in and turned on (68020 and up). So, if your game cannot cope with these processors and the turned on processor cache, then I am sorry, but it won’t help much.
Q: I tried to run Kickstart 1.3 and it crashed with the JIT enabled!
Why? I tried to run <some ancient Amiga 500 game> and it crashed with the JIT enabled! Why?
The processor cache is disabled when the processor resets and starts executing the ROM, but since the OS is not aware of the cache flags it turns on the cache when it fiddles with the processor control registers.
Why was it working with the interpretive emulator when 68020 processor was selected: the processor cache is not emulated in the interpretive emulator, so basically it doesn't matter at all if it was on or off.
Q: Why is the JIT depending on the processor (CPU) cache?
A: Because it is very hard to detect the self-modifying code, code overwriting and similar situations without the help from the OS or the running program itself. When the cache is flushed then the previously compiled code can be recompiled.
The JIT implementation is depending on the processor (CPU) cache emulation to overcome of the issue of the self-modifying and the generated/copied code. The JIT compiled code behaves quite similar to the actual 68020 execution, so if an OS version or a game does not work on 68020 (caches enabled) then it won't work with JIT either. (I had my sweet time with this issue while I was developing Petunia, back in the days. Still not resolved
Q: Will this JIT thing improve the speed of the emulation of my favorite (OS-friendly) 68k application?
A: Most likely yes. No promises, though.
Q: When will it be ready?
A: When it’s done… ;)
Q: Is the implementation derived from Petunia?
A: No, it is a completely different code. Neither any C or assembly source code from nor any dependency on the JIT implementation in AmigaOS4 is used.
(Actually, this is not entirely true: I was way too lazy to create an instruction description table file again and the parsing tool for it, so these two pieces were borrowed from Petunia. My original plan was using the present file and parsing, but it was so tuned to the interpretive emulation and my JIT implementation is significantly different than the x86 version, so I just skipped this. But apart from that two files the emulation itself is completely different.)
Q: Will it be faster than Petunia?
A: I have no idea. It is more likely that some apps will run faster with Petunia, others will run faster with the E-UAE JIT. There are too many factors that might have effect the results. We will see when it will be finished.
Q: Where can I get the sources?
A: Check out the SourceForge project: https://sourceforge.net/projects/euaeppcjit
Q: Where can I get the executable?
A: There is no final release yet, the project is in Beta stage.
Q: I want to try the emulation RIGHT NOW! How can I get it?
A: Go ahead and download the beta from the SourceForge project page:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/euaeppcjit/files
Please note: it is still Beta. You can give it a try, but be prepared that it might not work as you might expect it.
Q: But... but... I don't know how to set up the JIT compiling. What would you suggest?
A: There are some crucial settings for the JIT in the E-UAE configuration file. Without these settings the JIT compiling won't work properly. I suggest to add the following block into your E-UAE configuration file:
cpu_speed=max
cpu_type=68020
cpu_compatible=false
cpu_cycle_exact=false
blitter_cycle_exact=false
comp_optimize=no
cachesize=8192
comp_constjump=yes
comp_trustbyte=indirect
comp_trustword=indirect
comp_trustlong=indirect
ppc.use_tbc=false
These are the necessary settings for now, might (or most likely will) change in the future.
Q: How can I be sure that the JIT is working while I am running the program?
A: There is a LED for it! Yes, if you turn on the LED on-screen-display (OSD) then you will see a LED that says "JIT". If this LED is green (read: not completely black) then the JIT is on. The more bright green means more executed JIT code.
If the LED is red then the JIT compiling is not working at the moment.
To turn the LEDs on put this into your configuration file:
show_leds=true
If you are interested in the details of how the JIT LED works have a look on this post: http://euaejit.blogspot.com/2013/02/watch-for-led.html
The LED behavior is slightly changed in Beta01, so have a look on this page too:
http://euaejit.blogspot.com/2014/01/ppcjitbeta01-happy-new-year-2014.html
(Bonus questions, asked almost every time… :)
Q: Do you like to live in New Zealand?
A: Very much so. :)
Q: Have you met the hobbits yet?
A: No, not yet, but I am looking forward to meet them. But we already visited the Hobbiton, that was fun!
Q: Have you met any sheep yet?
A: Yes, a lot.
I will add more questions and answers to this post as soon as I got more.
It seems pretty boring for now. Maybe I should post some naked ladi^H^H^H^H facts to this page.
Comments? :)
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